WHO WAS DANGEROUS FOR MK GANDHI? JINNA OR JL NEHRU?
Tuesday, 3 May 2016 5:08 PM, shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com> wrote:
For Nehru, Gandhi was a tool to misuse. MK Gandhi knew this, and he was to handle Nehru at a later stage. But he was killed.
WHO WAS DANGEROUS FOR MK GANDHI? JINNA OR JL NEHRU?
Yes. It was JL Nehru who was more dangerous. No provincial party committee had suggested the name of JL Nehru for PM's post. Nehru declared before MK Gandhi that he want to head the government, then Gandhi told him that none of the provincial party committee and any of the CMs has suggested his name.
It was the moral duty of JL Nehru to withdraw his name. But instead of doing that, he kept mum and silently left the room. MK Gandhi thought that Nehru is likely to do some adventure. This adventure would break the Congress party at that crucial stage when the separatists including British were working hard to weaken the Congress. MK Gandhi called Sardar Patel and got an assurance that Sardar Patel would see that Congress remained united.
It is needless to say that JL Nehru had already created a socialistic Group within Congress with a freedom to abuse other Congress leaders like Rajgopalachari, Sardar Patel etc…
MK Gandhi knew that in democracy nothing is final. Let JL Nehru be the PM, till the general elections under new constitution gets conducted.
But unfortunate to India, MK Gandhi was murdered, Sardar died before general elections. JL Nehru used media to divert the attention of public from his failure in external affairs, his failures in planning and wisdom-less vision. It is a matter of surprise and a matter of research as to how the learned people made no noise.
JL Nehru had become intolerant and autocrat. He became hungry of power. JL Nehru himself has written this, for himself to have a fun on himself.
A good opportunity had come, to have Federal Union. Iskandar Mirza had proposed for "Federal Union, in 1955.
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On Sunday, 1 May 2016, Suresh Vyas <skanda987@gmail.com> wrote:
All the saintly qualities of MK Gandhi are Vedic qualities, except that he considered ahimsaa as the absolute principle, and it is not so per the Vedic scriptures. Mahabhart is an evidence of it--when Arjun said he does not want to fight, Krishna said he must (against the asuras).
Himsaa has its positive usage, and that must not be forgotten or neglected.
jai sri krishna!, -sv
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On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 8:59 AM, shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com> wrote:
"why it is hard to find any quality of Gandhi in Nehruvian Congress"
It is some people suffering from MK Gandhi phobia have taken from granted that Gandhi is the property of Nehruvian Congress. No principle of MK Gandhi is available in Nehruvian Congress, that is why MK Gandhi cannot be taken as property of Nehruvian Congress. It is not only hard, but next to impossible to find a quality of MK Gandhi in Nehruvian Congress.
When you yourself tell that "why it is hard to find any quality of Gandhi in Nehruvian Congress" then how do you take MK Gandhi is the property of Nehruvian Congress?
Nehruvian Congress is not the real Congress which has fought freedom struggle. That original Congress was dead when MK Gandhi asked to dissolve Congress. But MK Gandhi Died in January 1948, and Nehru had hidden this fact from common mass. Practically the original Congress died as soon as Nehru insulted Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel on Hyderabad Issue and many others issues.
"I feel, Gandhi's name is exploited by the crooks against the Vedics and national interests"
Nehru himself had told that he was accidently Hindu because of by birth. He was Muslim by culture, and Christian by brain. This clearly indicates that he was autocrat and crooked. It is a matter of research that how was he Hindu by Birth. Since he was not Hindu by culture, he had intolerance of Muslims and strategically (hypocrat) he was Christian. Nehru had no sense to understand Vedas and had no respect for Sanskrit language. Whereas MK Gandhi had great respect for Sanskrit and Indian culture and traditions. Nehru did not want Indian culture should flourish. He was sufficiently crook to misguide mass under the technics of communists.
"Is there any benefit gained by Bhaarat by keeping gandhi's picture on currency? I think not."
MK Gandhi brought revolution in Congress. He opened up the doors of Congress party for common men and women. He mobilized the mass for freedom struggle. He created a wide spread hatred against a well established British Empire. He spread the Congress organization to the deep grass root level in India. Since the British (though they were hypocrite) were open for discussion due to their commitment to democracy and human rights. They had no option but to communicate with MK Gandhi. It was MK Gandhi, who can talk with the British in their language,style and corner them. No freedom can be achieved without the involvement of mass.
MK Gandhi was the right, acceptable person (though having no power post in Congress since 1933), to have his picture on currency. The picture on a currency not is not for gaining benefit anywhere in the world. It is the respect and thankfulness culture of a country.
"For general Vedic mass, there is no loss of any kind if they forget Gandhi and think of Krishna's messages in Bhagavad Gita."
Gandhi and Geeta are not anonym. MK Gandhians are the real followers of Geeta. Gandhi had also written on Ishavasya Vritti. Advait is the Indian philosophy promoted by Shankaracharya from Vedas. Vinoba Bhave a veteran Gandhian had written the best Book "Lectures on Geeta". It is basically false and misconception on MK Gandhi to put him against Vedas and Geeta.
"Suppose most population does not want to listen or talk about Gandhi (and declare so to the world), then the congress will find that it does not benefit them to talk about Gandhi.--but that will not stop them doing adharma. "
I deny any link of MK Gandhi with Nehruvian Congress. I hate Nehruvian Congress. I do not degrade the Original Congress by way taking and calling the Nehruvian Congress as "Congress".
Narendra Modi is clever enough to delink the Nehruvian Congress with MK Gandhi. It is a folly of the small quantity of people suffering from MK Gandhi phobia, to not delink MK Gandhi from Nehruvian Congress.
Hara Hara Mahadeva
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On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 1:28 AM, shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com> wrote:
What I feel some times that fault lies with Hindus is to invite uncalled topic for discussion or to float uncalled remarks or to float irrelevant remarks which would simply divide Hindus, by those Hindus, who are having no sense of proportion and priority.
Nehruvian Congress and its cultural allies are trying to divide Hindus vote by caste, reservation (which also a part of castes), RSS, Ambedkar and MK Gandhi.
There are people among Hindus who knows very well that reservation had simply been introduced based on Caste, for political reason of dividing Hindu votes.
RSS might have supported the proposal of Narendra Modi for PM Ship. But the reason was not because Narendra Modi belonged to RSS. In fact Narendra Modi was most popular among mass due to his reputation.
But Nehruvian Congress and its cultural allies are trying to propagate the theory that RSS is the back seat driver. This is just like Sonia was in Nehruvian Cong. In fact RSS could never been a back seat driver of the Government, at least so far Narendra Modi is the PM. RSS was also not a back seat driver in Gujarat when Narendra Modi was CM Gujarat. But the senseless and communal media (yes I say the most media is communal in reality, because they help Nehruvian Congress and its cultural allies as they are communal on recorded proofs.
MK Gandhi was quite a different person than Nehruvian Congress in character, Culture and principles. But there are some bloggers disguise as Anti-Nehruvians baselessly and hypothetically (probably due to their false priorities and ill knowledge on MK Gandhi if realy the are Anti-Nehruvian Congress party) present MK Gandhi as MK Gandhi and Nehruvians and its party were the same and are the same. And MK Gandhi is still a property of Nehruvian Congress.
Ambedkar was a highly learned fellow and a social reformer. But he was not a politician. Crooked Nehru could prevent him very easily to come up in politics. Not only this, but Nehru was successful in presenting Ambedkar as a leader of Backward class. In fact Ambedkar was much more than that. Now the situation is that most Hindus, though they are against Nehru, Nehruvians and the party, are heavily influenced by Nehru to think on Nehruvian line of political thinking. This situation again divides Hindus on Ambedkar.
Uncalled subjects are "What Narendra Modi did for Hindus?, Article 370, Ram Mandir, Corruptions, Scams, Common Civil Code etc...?
What to do with our learned bloggers who are helping Communal parties like Nehruvian Congress and its cultural allies?
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From: vasant sardesai <vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016
Whatever may be saintly qualities of M. K. Gandhi, he was a politician who has harmed India by imposing J. Nehru on India by replacing Sardar Patel. and I think that is his greatest sin which has caused maximum harm to India and which is still continuing in the form of dynasty.
V. S. Sardesai
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On Thursday, April 28, 2016, shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com wrote:
If we Hindus, would finish the Nehruvian Congress and its cultural allies completely, the fundamentalists Muslims will automatically get to the right path.
It is very easy to finish these communal gangs viz.
Nehruvian Cong, NCP, TMC, CPIM, RJD, SS, MNS, SP, JDU, BSP, ADMK. AIDMK,
Muslim League, NF, MIM etc..
and some media gangs, NDTV , Aaj Tak , ABP etc. etc. completely, because they have committed scams and frauds wherever you put your on and wherever they put their hands on .
Read this:
A Pakistan born Canadian writer Tarek Fatah on ABP news:
1. Kashmiri Pandits who are Hindus, were killed in Hindustan in their home land, you Hindus don't have the spine to re-establish them in Kashmir again, and you talk about secularism!
2. Pakistan is responsible for terrorism. Five (5) Pakistani guys come and blast the shit out of you, and you talk about tolerance!
3. Inside most of the Mosques, they chant "Kill Kafirs" in group, and you talk about minority rights!
http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/58917.html#disqus_thread>
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4. In Kerela , Hyderabad , West Bengal , Kashmir ...they raise Pakistani flags, and you name them Indian Muslims!
5. Everyone knows whenever India-Pak war happened and even in a cricket match , Indian Muslims are on which side Indian Muslims celebrate when India looses , but still you call them patriots!
6. Taslima Nasreen and many more writers were beaten in Hyderabad, Aqbur-Ud-Din-Owaisi said he would kill 100 crore Hindus, why you did not return your awards then against rising intolerance!----- you still call these traitors PATRIOTS -----
7. Pakistan is beheading your soldiers and your politicians are visiting Pakistan to resume trade and relations! When will you Hindus have the guts and control your obsession with Urdu and Biryani!
8. Thousands of your temples are demolished, you could not do anything! You're still struggling to build a temple in your own country, at your own cultural center Ayodhya.When you HINDUUS will wake up ?
9. Be it 2002, 1991 ...these all are the reactions of violence of Muslims, their obsession about Jihad and right now for ISIS. You think Indians don't join ISIS ? Check the data from Britain and many countries where NRI's are joining there in huge numbers.
10. At last, I would say that you have not thought about the above mentioned points until some random Pakistani Muslim guy from Canada comes here to wake you up!
HINDUUS ! When will you have SOME guts?????---------
WAKE UP BEFORE YOU ALL WILL BE FINISHED -----------
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तारिक फ़तेह trying to wake HINDUUS ----- Some questions ..... To the Nationalists people on Nehruvian Congress and their Cultural allies
From: Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, 29 April 2016
There is no doubt Mr. Tarek Fateh has given validity to Hindus claim how bad Muslims of Hindustan have been. The same claim by a true Hindu leader always looked at as prejudiced. Unfortunately, the truth is that so called well educated Hindus of India who had been and still are prejudiced against their own race. This phenomenon started much before European invasion to land of Bhagwan Ram & Krishna, ex: Jaichand. Then famous one was none other than so called "Rashtra-Pita", MK Gandhi. Even in my life time, each & every Hindu who have been following the foot steps of Gandhi-Nehru-Indira-Rajiv-Sonia-Rahul & Priyanka, are prejudiced against their own race & religion.
Dr. Kumar Arun
April 29, 2016
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तारिक फ़तेह trying to wake HINDUUS ----- Some questions ..... To the Nationalists people on Nehruvian Congress and their Cultural allies.
From: Kumar Arun [kumar2786@hotmail.com]
Sent: 28 April 2016
Dear Mr Shirish Dave and fellow Bharatiya,
Would you please list all your points about what Hindus of India could have done more than giving a clear mandate to Narendra Modi to bring sanity in the country by punishing corrupt congress and the government machinery?
I am sick and tired of listening "wake up Hindus" or "Jago Hindus" from intelligent people mainly out side India. All of you know how much raise in salary and perks MPs allowed for themselves. Do they do their job honestly and sincerely? Why don't you cry to wake these corrupt and undeserving MPs and their paid staves?
Respectfully, Dr. Kumar Arun, April 28, 2016
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तारिक फ़तेह trying to wake HINDUUS ----- Some questions ..... To the Nationalists people on Nehruvian Congress and their Cultural allies.
From: Suresh Vyas <skanda987@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, 30 April 2016
Ref. line: "And MK Gandhi is still a property of Nehruvian Congress."
Okay, then why it is hard to find any qualities of Gandhi in the Congress members/supporters?
As I feel, Gandhi's name is exploited by the crooks against the Vedics and national interests.
Is there any benefit gained by Bhaarat by keeping Gandhi's picure on currency? I think not.
For general Vedic mass, there is no loss of any kind if they forget Gandhi and think of Krishna's messages in Bhagavad Gita.
Suppose most population does not want to listen or talk about Gandhi (and declare so to the world), then the congress will find that it does not benefit them to talk about Gandhi.-- but that will not stop them doing adharma.
jai sri krishna!
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"CALLING OFF BLUFF" OF CONGRESS WALAS AND THEIR COHORTS
On Saturday, 30 April 2016, "Vinod vkhanna@btinternet.com [columbans63]" <columbans63@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Mahatma Gandhi's great grandson Shrikrishna Kulkarni's open letter to Rahul Gandhi in response to the Congress Vice President saying that the RSS had killed Gandhi...
Will he have the guts to remove the crutches of his surname and stand on his own feet ?
Shri Rahul Gandhi,
Gandhiji was my great grandfather. He was assassinated by Mr. Nathuram Godse.WHO WAS NOT AN R.S.S MAN
Many inquiry commissions have researched finality of this case and none has implicated the RSS.
My grandfather Ramdas Gandhi wrote to the then Home Minister, Sardar Patel to spare Mr. Godse the capital punishment -- our family had moved on even then...
but...just for your information..when Ramdas Gandhi lay dying in Mumbai(1969), Mr. Gopal Godse, the younger brother of Mr. Nathuram Godse did pay him a visit.
So as it stands, this issue is squarely in the past and my family has moved on....
....my humble suggestion -- your folks who own Congress (I) and your goodself...should move on AND QUIT milking the name Gandhi and this issue for YOUR SELFISH BENEFITS.
Have the magnanimity to accept the verdicts of the various commissions.
To keep harping that the RSS killed Gandhi is akin to saying the Sikhs killed your GRANDMOTHER ... which would be such a petty falsehood isn't it?
A couple of guys don't make for a community.... So please stop this charade, stop this opportunistic usage of the Gandhi name.
YOU ARE NOT FROM THE GANDHI FAMILY. YOU HAVE FOOLED TOO MANY PEOPLE FOR TOO LONG USING GANDHI NAME IN INDIA. STOP IT NOW.
I am putting this in the public domain as someone from the Gandhi family has to call your bluff.
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CALLING OFF BLUFF" OF CONGRESS WALAS AND THEIR COHORTS
From: AyodhyaPrasad Tripathi [mailto:aryavrt39@gmail.com]
Sent: May 2, 2016
अब्रह्मी संस्कृतियों को वैदिक सनातन संस्कृति को मिटाने के लिए २०वीं सदी के मीरजाफर पाकपिता - राष्ट्रहंता बैरिस्टर मोहनदास करमचन्द गांधी द्वारा रखा गया है.
http://www.aryavrt.com/gau-hatyara-gandhi
युद्ध भूमि में भारत कभी नहीं हारा| लेकिन अपने ही जयचंदों से हारा है| समझौतों से हारा है| अपनी मूर्खता से हारा है| उन्हीं समझौतों में सत्ता के हस्तांतरण का समझौता भी है|
२०वीं सदी के मीरजाफर (गांधी) और माउंटबेटन के बीच समझौते के अधीन इंडिया के मुसलमान व ईसाई सहित सभी उपनिवेशवासियों का सब कुछ एलिजाबेथ का ही है. आतताई अब्रह्मी संस्कृतियों को वैदिक सनातन संस्कृति को मिटाने के लिए रखा गया है. (पहले स्वतंत्रता तो लीजिये|) माउन्टबेटन को इससे भी संतुष्टि नहीं हुई| उसने मौत के फंदे व परभक्षी भारतीय संविधान के अनुच्छेद २९(१) का संकलन करा कर, मानवमात्र को कत्ल होने के लिए, सदा सदा के लिए आप की धरती को छीन कर संयुक्त रूप से हत्यारे, लुटेरे और बलात्कारी दास मुसलमानों और ईसाइयों को सौंप दिया|
http://www.aryavrt.com/muj14w32a-15agst_upnivesh_divas
अब्रह्मी संस्कृतियाँ मानवता को वश में करने के लिए नपुंसक बना देने वाले गढ़े गए मजहब हैं. अब्रह्मी संस्कृतियाँ को डायनासोर की भांति मानवजाति को दास बनाने अन्यथा मिटाने के लिए गढ़ा गया है. हम उस भारतीय संविधान के अनुच्छेद २९(१) को क्यों स्वीकार करें, जिसने हमें मार डालने का मुसलमानों और ईसाइयों को निरंकुश मौलिक अधिकार प्रदान किया है? यह इन मजहबों के खिलाफ जागने और लड़ने का समय है. अब्रह्मी संस्कृतियों मानव जाति के लिए खतरा हैं. मुसलमानों और ईसाइयों के साथ कोई सह - अस्तित्व नहीं हो सकता है. जब तक मुसलमान व ईसाई मुहम्मद और यीशु में विश्वास करते हैं, वे दूसरों के लिए और यहां तक कि खुद एक दूसरे के लिए खतरा हैं.
१. गांधी के कांग्रेस ने निःशुल्क गुरुकुल शिक्षा प्रणाली का अपमान किया है, जिसकी शिक्षा अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि है| जिस का तात्पर्य यह निर्देशित करता है कि मानव यानी प्रत्येक व्यक्ति स्वयं संप्रभु है। उसका व्यक्तित्व अत्यन्त महिमावान है - इसलिए हे मानवों! आप चाहे मुसलमान हो या ईसाई अथवा कोई भी, अपने व्यक्तित्व को महत्त्व दो। आत्मनिर्भरता पर विश्वास करो। कोई ईश्वर, पंडित, मौलवी, पादरी और इस तरह के किसी व्यक्तियों को अनावश्यक महत्त्व न दो। तुम स्वयं शक्तिशाली हो - उठो, जागो और जो भी श्रेष्ठ प्रतीत हो रहा हो, उसे प्राप्त करने हेतु उद्यत हो जाओ। जो व्यक्ति अपने पर ही विश्वास नही करेगा - उससे दरिद्र और गरीब मनुष्य दूसरा कोई न होगा। यही है अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि का अन्यतम तात्पर्य।
२. गांधी के कांग्रेस ने हमारे दस हजार से अधिक अब्रह्मी संस्कृतियों के विरोधी परिवारों को दाने दाने के लिए मुंहताज कर रखा है| किसी के पास साहस नहीं जो हमारी सहायता कर सके| उसे एलिजाबेथ बर्बाद कर देगी| एलिजाबेथ के पास वैदिक सनातन धर्म को मिटाने के लिए ईश्वरीय आदेश भी है (बाइबल, लूका १९:२७) और संवैधानिक अधिकार भी| भारतीय संविधान का अनुच्छेद २९(१). जिन्हें भ्रष्टाचार से बचना हो एलिजाबेथ को बंदी बनाने में आर्यावर्त सरकार की सहायता करें|
३. वोट द्वारा (बाइबल, लूका १९:२७), (कुरान २:१९१) व संविधान के अनु२९(१) द्वारा दिया गया हत्या का असीमित मौलिक अधिकार नहीं बदला जा सकता| (बाइबल, लूका १९:२७), (कुरान २:१९१) व भारतीय संविधान का अनुच्छेद २९(१) द्वारा दिया गया आप की हत्या का असीमित मौलिक मजहबी अधिकार|
४. हम अभिनव भारत और आर्यावर्त सरकार के बागी हैं| हमारा कथन है कि भारतीय संविधान मानव जाति को मिटाने के लिए संकलित किया गया है| यदि आप अपनी, अपने देश व अपने वैदिक सनातन धर्म की रक्षा करना चाहते हैं तो समस्या की जड़ अब्रह्मी संस्कृतियों को, निजहित में, मिटाने में हमारा सहयोग कीजिए|
५. ओबामा का बारम्बार यह कहना कि अमेरिका की लड़ाई इस्लाम के विरुद्ध नहीं है, इस मामले को अधिक संदिग्ध बना देता है| इस्लाम के बचाव का कारण आर्यावर्त सरकार को यह दिखाई दे रहा है कि अमेरिका इस्लाम का दोहन वैदिक सनातन धर्म को मिटाने के लिए कर रहा है|
६. चुनाव हमारे किसी समस्या का समाधान नहीं है. पिछले दिल्ली चुनाव में मुख्यमंत्री के दो प्रमुख दावेदार केजरीवाल और किरण बेदी थे और दोनों को ही राकफेलर का रमन मेगासेसे पुरष्कार प्राप्त हुआ है. यानी दोनों ही राकफेलर के हितों को साधने के लिए विवश हैं. इसके अतिरिक्त वोट से मानवजाति को उपनिवेश से मुक्ति नहीं मिल सकती. दोनों ही वैदिक सनातन संस्कृति को मिटाने के लिए विवश हैं. दोनों ही मस्जिद और अज़ान का विरोध नहीं कर सकते. दोनों ही भारतीय संविधान के अनुच्छेद २९(१), जो किसी को जीने का अधिकार नहीं देता और ३९(ग), जो किसी को सम्पत्ति और उत्पादन के साधन रखने का अधिकार नहीं देता, को नहीं बदल सकते.
७. किसी भी हरे भरे वृक्ष को नष्ट करने के लिए एक गिद्ध का निवास ही पर्याप्त है| इसी प्रकार किसी भी संस्कृति को मिटाने के लिए एक मुसलमान या ईसाई का निवास पर्याप्त है| अकेला कोलम्बस अमेरिका के लाल भारतीयों और उनकी माया संस्कृति को निगल गया| अकेला मैकाले संस्कृत भाषा और गुरुकुलों को निगल गया| अकेला मुहम्मद अपने आश्रय दाता यहूदियों के तीन प्रजातियों बनू कैनुका, बनू नजीर और बनू कुरेज़ा को निगल गया|
भवदीय:-
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आर्यावर्त सरकार, ७७ खेड़ा खुर्द, दिल्लीः ११० ०८२.
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